Is Soundcloud A Legitimate Option for Podcasting? 8 Podcast Media Hosting Companies Compared

Today we tackle the hype around soundcloud.com as a podcasting solution and compare it to some of the other top podcast media solutions that have been around. I apply my criteria, and see who makes it, and share my opinion on why some of them still make me nervous.

Note: For the record you can get a free month at blubrry.com or Libsyn.com using the coupon code sopfree you will see that even though using those codes benefits me financially, those companies don’t always finish on top. Here is a print version of this article with a few more screen shots.

If you’d like to see more screen shots here is a PDF of this article.

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The Opening Players

Amazon S3
Buzzsprout.com
Podomatic.com
Libsyn.com
Blubrry.com
Podbean.com
Spreaker.com
Soundcloud.com

My Criteria

1. Don’t mess with my file. What I upload is what I want people to download.
2. Give me the ability to have an unlimited back catalog (unlimited storage)
3. Don’t limit my audience size (unlimited bandwidth)
4. Don’t control my feed, and make it easy to leave if I choose to do so. I need to be able to put in an iTunes redirect script.
5. Give me support.
6. Charge me for your service so you can stay in business
7. Give me stats so I can see what’s working. It would be nice if they were accurate.

This kills the following:

Amazon S3. No stats, and your start cheap, but get really expensive if I get popular. (my last bill was over $40).
Podmatic – Limited bandwidth, limited storage, and no way to leave (you hijack my feed)
Buzzsprout.com – You change my file, and I have to ask to leave.
Spreaker.com – You mess with my ID3 tags, and there is no way to leave.

That leaves:
Soundcloud.com
Libsyn.com
Blubrry.com
Podbean.com

UPDATE: The file does not change when you download the file from soundcloud. HOWEVER, the file they put into the RSS feed has been renamed. PLUS, if you are a podcaster you have to go to your RSS feed, look at the code (have fun with that) and dig out the mp3 file to put into the Powerpress player on your site (I know, why not just use their player). But in three years, the best solution you have is to dig through the feed?

Pricing

I tried to get the hosts to line up in a fashion that we could compare apples to apples. It’s not easy. For the most part I chose the price point closest to $20.  Here is what I found.

Soundcloud is the cheapest coming in at .0021 per meg (that’s almost free)
Podbean comes in at .03 per meg of storage  (300 megs per month)
Libsyn.com comes in at .05 per meg (400 megs per month)
Blubrry.com comes in at .08 per meg (250 Megs per month)

Note: If you want stats that provide details of where your downloads are coming from (countries) you need to have the $79 a month plan for 1.5 gigabytes of storage (which is overkill in 99% of the cases). With this in mind, I am taking podbean out of most of this discussion.

For me, I typically recommend the Libsyn.com account for $20. You get more than enough space and the ability to get a smart phone app. You also get deluxe stats.

Player

1. Soundcloud wins this one hands down. Reason? It’s just cool. Does everything but play in a new window.
2. Blubrry Powerpress plugin provides the ability to stream, play in new window, or download.
3. Libsyn’s player can do the same as the Powerpress player with some tweaking

My choice: I use the blubrry powerpress plugin to put a player on my site (you can use this even if you’re not using Blubrry for hosting). Why not Soundcloud? Because soundcloud stats are not integrated with Libsyn or blubrry like Stitcher stats (hello Soundcloud if you’re going to be in this space you better meet your neighbors). This means using soundcloud and another host will require you to check your stats in more than one place. At this point I’m getting negligible plays from the soundcloud website.

My favorite player for putting in a sidebar is the one from the Blubrry network (free).

Stats

Blubrry and Libsyn stats are very simliar with a slight edge to Blubrry for being more user friendly. Libsyn actually gives you more information (cities). Soundcloud can give you some of this information but not the platform (iphone, windows, etc) that Blubrry.com and Libsyn.com

1. Blubrry.com – great content, pretty, and easy to understand and exportable. Blubrry.com offers free stats that show downloads and a few other items.
2. Libsyn.com – very similar to blubrry.com (each shows some items the other does not) and exportable. If you’re not using the $20 a month plan you get a download numbers only stats.
3. Soundcloud – Basic stats with some geographic location.
4. Podean.com – as mentioned earlier their stats are pitiful (download only, and can only be viewed one episode at a time) unless you ‘re using the $79/month.

Unique Capabilities

Soudcloud

Soundcloud’s player is one of the coolest things on the planet. It makes your content easy to share, it works everywhere you can add a button to the player (for purchasing something, itunes, etc). The one thing it doesn’t do is offer the ability to play in a new window.

Blubrry.com

Blubrry’s key is ease of publishing. Once your audio file is done, you can enter your show notes (blog post) and when you upload the file it will take the title of your post and add it to the mp3 file in the ID3 tags. It will also “tag” the other fields in your file.

You do all of this from within the blubrry interface.

Blubrry.com has a distribution on the following:

  • Roku TV Box
  • Boxee TV Box
  • GoogleTV
  • Android
  • LookeeTV
  • Samsung SmartTV
  • And More!

Libsyn.com

Libsyn has a quick publish feature where you can enter your ID3 tags, and upload the file using an FTP software to a specific folder. The information from within your media file is then used to create an episode post on Libsyn.com This posting can then be replicated on your WordPress site, facebook page, tumblr.com, blogger.com, Linkedincom, youtube.com

If you have $20 a month plan or higher, you can get a smartphone app for your podcast for free. You can charge people for this, or you can spend a little money to get an Apple developer’s license and give it away for free (you do need to pay an $10 a month to libsyn as they will provide the customer support for the app).

Libsyn also offers the ability to sell your back catalog. Top podcasters Marc Maron, Adam Corolla and others use this tool which you can find here.

Libsyn stats have a cool feature that allow you to double click on a day and see what files were downloaded. This is interesting as you will see your latest episodes and you will also see you back catalog being downloaded.

Podbean

For $79 a month, you can manage your mailing list through podbean (or you can use a tool like Awber designed to handle mailing lists).

Frequently Asked Podcast Questions on Soundcloud

Can I have more than one podcast on Soundcloud? Kind of. I have all my old outdated (out if print if you will) shows on there as a test. There is only one RSS feed. If you are using your own website and rss feed you could use them as “just a media host.”

What’s the limitation of their free account? You can only upload a certain amount of files. When I first played with them, I would have to delete a file to upload a new one.

Fishy Things About Podbean and SoundCloud

While Libsyn and Blubrry have representatives in all of the podcasting communities. They are at our conventions. We know them by name. Todd, Mike, Angelo, Rob, Elsie, Krystal. Podbean and Soundcloud have no presence that I’ve seen. They have their websites and pretty much that’s it.

Pobean does not list their address on their website. If you want it its:

501 Silverside Road, Suite 105 , Wilmington , DE , 19809 , United States
Phone: +1 514 969 1917

UPDATE: When you search for their address in Google it comes up a “virtual office.” HMMMMMM

Why would you not list your address unless you don’t want to be found?

Soundcloud has been around since 2008

5 million official SoundCloud apps have been downloaded. In 20012 they celebrated 10 million sound creators.

according to crunch base they’ve receive 123 million. In 2014 they received 60 million. Yet their podcasting tools are in beta, and you have to request to be in it.

Why is this still in beta after three years (it launched in January of 2011)?

 Summary

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So is Soundcloud a legitimate podcast solution? They do pass all of my criteria, so with that I could say yes. For me, I am still a little nervous about a system that’s been in development for THREE YEARS and has not come out of beta. I think their interfaceS (remember they are in the middle up upgrading their interface) makes their system unfriendly, and their stats are not on par with the two companies I recommend which are Blubrry.com and Libsyn.com

I am using them as an additional distribution point to see if I get any traction over there. In reality, like any other platform, you get out of it what you put into it.

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Thanks to Neil, “You were wrong Dave” Smith of undercountryradio.com for sharing his pain.

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Leave A Reply (17 comments so far)


  1. Daniel J. Lewis
    4 months ago

    Nice overview, Dave!

    The one thing that has me thinking is the Soundcloud offering. I’m _almost_ interested in using them _just_ for media hosting, but I’ve also had some SC problems with some of my clients. Like invalid media URLs and worse.


  2. Mark
    4 months ago

    Dave

    Of all the things you said, one bit had me scratching my head a little. The comments on not being able to play the Soundcloud audio in a new window. Tabbed browsing has been around for some years now. Don’t want to leave the page playing the audio, just open a new tab.

    As for everything else. I totally agree. I went down the Archive.org then BuzzSprout route when setting up – I very quickly realised my error and moved over to Libsyn.

    For me using SoundCloud would be like asking a car electrician to rewire your house (having purchased a house where the previous owner did just that, I know what a disaster it can be).

    Cheers

    Mark


  3. Shawn
    4 months ago

    I agree with you when it comes to SoundCloud. They need to get their podcasting service out of beta and they need to get into the community, already.

    On a somewhat related note, I heard Tom Merritt say today during an interview on the Mac Power Users podcast that he hosts the audio files for his new daily tech news show on archive.org. Kinda surprised by that, especially considering the highly successful Patreon campaign he’s had for that podcast. His explanation for this was something like, “Everything ends up on archive.org eventually anyway, so I may as well just put the files there first.” I hope all of the dedicated fans who chipped in to help his campaign appreciate the slow download speeds. And I wonder if Merritt is donating any of those funds to archive.org to help with their bandwidth costs…


  4. Terry McKenna
    4 months ago

    Hi Dave,

    Have you heard the latest episode of “Smart Passive Income” (where Pat interviews Tim Ferris)? Pat mentioned that he uses Soundcloud for his “Ask Pat” podcast, because the episodes are only around five minutes. He likes that you can embed the player and play it directly from a social media platform.

    I was thinking about doing the same type of thing. What do you think? Would I have to launch an entirely new podcast with a new website and RSS feed?


  5. Dave Jackson
    4 months ago

    Terry,
    If its a new podcast you can create a new site (or not). If you switch media hosts, you don’t need to change a thing, but you take out the old media link (say to blubrry) and replace it with the link of the new media host.


  6. Tom Sabella
    4 months ago

    I have been thinking about using soundcloud. This has been very helpful. I use libsyn they r great. Any time I have a question Rob is on it.


  7. Terry McKenna
    4 months ago

    Thanks Dave,

    My thought was to keep blubrry for my regular episodes, and use Soundcloud for short bits. I am thinking/hoping I can do something on Soundcloud without even using the RSS feed. After all, if I were to put a song up using Soundcloud I wouldn’t need to do it using an RSS…right?

    I suppose using it this way would mean that my “shorts” would not go to iTunes, etc., but I might just be able to publish them via social media.

    Thanks again Dave…love the show and I love that you are a fellow Clevelander! West Side \m/


  8. Dave Jackson
    4 months ago

    They changed things since I first published this and now you have to dig into your RSS to find the mp3 (not exactly convienient).


  9. Dave Jackson
    4 months ago

    If you want it to go to iTunes you would need to get the direct link, and getting that is not easy, and in theory you need to be using their podcast service (or there are some sites that help you dig out the mp3).


  10. Terry McKenna
    4 months ago

    Maybe blubrry will develop a player like Soundcloud’s. That would solve everything for me.


  11. Angelo Mandato
    4 months ago

    Terry, please email me your thoughts on a new player, cio [at] rawvoice dot com. We can’t simply copy the SoundCloud player, but if you can give me suggestions what elements you like we can try to come up with something.


  12. Terry McKenna
    4 months ago

    Thanks Angelo,

    I am pondering this a little more and will email you in the next day or two.


  13. Dave Jackson
    4 months ago

    Terry,
    look forward to it.

    Dave


  14. Ean
    3 months ago

    Here is and easy way to get your soundcloud mp3 link. http://youtu.be/FN0nhKXgvGM


  15. Dave Jackson
    3 months ago

    Ean,
    Thanks very interesting. Still would not use soundcloud as my MAIN host. So weird that they don’t make this easier.


  16. Cecilie Korst
    2 months ago

    Thanks, Dave. I feel vindicated as you confirmed my research. We are switching from a dreadful service and with a video cast and two audio casts on the way, we need a bigger boat and rolling storage. The enterprise guys just don’t understand the podcast world.
    You rock! Keep up the fine work!
    Cecilie Korst
    The Trailer Talks (among other things)


  17. Camari
    2 months ago

    Dave,

    Thanks for sharing with me. This was very insightful.

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